Продовжуємо срач навколо "kiev"
Понеділок, 28 Травень 2018 20:38![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
Доповідаю, що події розвиваються. Виявляється, що раніше вже було подібне запитання, і спільнота дійшла висновку, що треба користуватися Вікіпедією, розсадником московського кібертероризму і дезорієнтації (чому розсадником? — згадайте, наприклад, ганебну історію стосовно сторінки "Kievan Rus" — ніби, була якась інша Rus, а оця конкретна — "Kievan").
Я написав свою відповідь, яка пояснює, чому жоден серйозний сайт, якщо він бажає вважатися серйозним джерелом якісної інформації, не може посилатися на Вікіпедію, бо московня вкладає великі гроші, щоб редагувати статті на Вікіпедії. Ось текст. До вас прохання таке само: будь ласка, заходьте, підтримуйте своїми голосами, коментуйте, вносіть необхідні правки — все те, що може зробити цей допис більш точним і влучним.
Stack Exchange sites should use official toponyms, accepted by the United Nations (UNGEGN). Any other naming would inevitably become disputed.
Moreover, a misleading spelling at a Travel site can lead the travelers straight into the trouble.
The other answer suggests to use Wikipedia, but open sources have some natural drawbacks that virtually eliminate the possibility to use them in official context — the only context which makes Stack Exchange a source of quality content, unlike forums, blogs, and other Q&A sites.
One vivid example is the disgraceful situation coming up around the Wikipedia page for Kyiv, the capital of Ukraine.
The United Nations (UNGEGN) has accepted the only possible English-language transliteration, Kyiv. There is no "or", "a.k.a.", or "alias" here.
However, the Wikipedia page has a detractive name "Kiev" which has its roots in centuries of Russian occupation and forced russification. There have been a whopping 9 (nine!) attempts to rename it, and, to the shame of the Wikipedia community, none were successful.
In the light of numerous accusations of a certain country committing a massive number of cyberterrorist acts in the recent years, successfully penetrating the most protected sites like presidential elections and national referendums, it is not surprising that the same force could easily penetrate the less-protected community-driven sites like Wikipedia.
And now it is on the way to penetrate the Stack Exchange, too.
There are good thoughts posted in comments above, I'll take my liberty to put it into this post:
- Since Stackexchange is an English-language website hosted in America, shouldn't we use whatever is the official name accepted by the US government? – JonathanReez
- The Kiev/Kyiv question is clearly resolved on the embassy website, for example: https://www.usembassy.gov/ukraine/ – JonathanReez
We do not force the users to obey this rule in their posts because it's impossible to enforce, but the site itself should follow the internationally-accepted (the UN) convention of spelling toponyms. This includes keeping the proper spelling of tags, UI (dropdown selectors), etc. This would make Stack Exchange a source of quality content, helping people learn, and avoid any misleading content.